Grand Orient - Is it real?

Bag_Race · 05-01-2008, 12:56 PM

I have had some communication with a couple "regular" masons who insist that the GOUSA is a fraud. I am starting to get confused because I haven't really been hearing back from them. Does anyone have any SOLID info about what is going on?

jpeffer2007 · 05-01-2008, 01:35 PM

GOUSA is a real functioning organization. I know several of the guys. (My lodge is not a member of this organization) The GOUSA just isn't recognized by mainstream Grand Lodges in the USA. They are however, recognized, by the Grand Orient of France (the oldest Masonic body in the world) the George Washington Union (in the US), and Co-Masons in the US.

They belief in a more liberal and progressive form of Free-Masonry where each lodge is sovereign and the Grand Body is just a confederation of sovereign lodges.

Jamie

Bag_Race · 05-01-2008, 01:49 PM

Hmmm...I am hearing different opinions on all of this. I'll keep searching though until I know what is up. I am very interested in the GOUSA though.

D. W. Brown · 05-01-2008, 02:15 PM

Yup it's very real, more real than most mainstream GLs like to admit. Meetings have already taken place between the GO of France and the US and more scheduled over the next few months. If you try to find out much about it on the mainstream (established) internet sites you won't get much but disinformation trying to stop it from happening but it is beginning to take on a life of it's own and growing very quickly.

The Masons who started it are extremely politically savy and smart at the chess game and it's attracting "the right" kind of Masons. I'm extremely excited about it and watching with baited breath.

Bag_Race · 05-01-2008, 03:01 PM

I know that I am also. Only problem is that I live in Oregon and wonder how long it might take to get some momentum here.

Stealth · 05-01-2008, 04:41 PM

Yes and the AASRSJ is throwing fits, because they don't have a legitimate Patent-charter so their days of snowballing are over.

D. W. Brown · 05-01-2008, 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Bag_Race

I know that I am also. Only problem is that I live in Oregon and wonder how long it might take to get some momentum here.

I know a few of the members hang-out here and also have a nice forum started here http://www.tracingboard.com ..

grandsecretary · 05-02-2008, 05:18 AM

A fraud is criminal deception, a very serious allegation.

The next time anybody suggests this to you, simply ask them to write it down on a piece of paper, and sign it.

I feel sure that the Grand Secretary of the Grand Orient of The United States of America would be pleased to receive their opinion on the subject; would ensure that the person responsible withdraws his allegation and apologises to you; and would also arrange for him to make a donation to one of your local charities as a penance.

grandsecretary · 05-02-2008, 05:20 AM

He wasn't called Dean by any chance was he?

Bag_Race · 05-02-2008, 11:19 AM

Heh...Well I won't give names in an open forum but I am sure they are not unfamiliar to many freemasons. I doubt they post on this forum though.

BTW I agree.