witnessofjesus

Thank you, Thomas J., for your comments.

I'm not on a cross, nor do I ever hope to be. Last I checked such would be 'cruel and unusual' punishment under our Bill of Rights, which is forbidden by our laws.

My comments have been on point and very clear, no wishy washey, spineless, gutless talk here. I call it as I see it, of course, after I consider the facts from both camps which I've done.

I'm not Catholic, so I wouldn't be interested in Vatican government, but would like to revisit there again, I was at the Vatican back in 1997 for a few days, it was a great trip, enjoyed it very much.

Play God? You can try if you wish, I don't attempt to do this, I just judge a man by his works, and not his words, and the works I've seen from the renegade camp is clearly that of rebels and not any brethren of mine. They are free to practice clandestine Masonry if they wish, they can just practice it with those who condone it, as I do not, and will not.

Fraternally,

Witness

antoninus9

There are about a dozen mainstreamers whining on all the forums. They pretend to be lawyers and judges, and make proclamations on issues which they have no real knowledge.

Responding to them is a waste of intellectual capacity. They are "born again Freemasons" and no amount of truth or logic will help them to see the light. They're just a Masonic version of the antis.

If you visit the lodgeroomus you can witness a real-time institutionalized circle jerk of these bozos back slapping one another into a frenzy. They spend all their time telling each other how great they are and name calling everyone else. It's like Masonic Romper Room.

Jeff

antoninus9

"My comments have been on point and very clear, no wishy washey, spineless, gutless talk here." - WitnessofJesus

Your comments read like those of a typical fascist. I bet you you have a Waffen SS flag hidden under your bed in waiting for the time when the "Perfect Men" seize control of the world.

Jeff

D. W. Brown

Oh **** antoninus9 you bitch slapped him a bit harsh didn't you?

Sorry to offend, ok maybe not, but this is not the Vatican or your local church. Freemasonry is a brotherhood not a religion, we respect the church but you have to also respect us. You want me to be watch my language and you come to my house and ask that of me.

Now, I don’t want any brother to get me wrong, I respect everyone, equally. However, this is my house and I pay the bills, I will say what I wish, it is a free country. You don’t like it turn to another page or go somewhere else. I can create a Religious Only forum, if you want and will enforce it for you, but don’t be so presumptuous in the future.

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shadrack420

Thank you Brother Brown,
I could not have said it any better.

shadrack420

Luke Skywalker was a rebel and he was alright.
So does that make Lord Vader your leader? aka Brent Morris.

witnessofjesus

Yes, Bro. Brown, you do pay the bills and I understand that, but intelligent people can find more civilized terms by which to communicate than the vulgarities of the vulgar tongue, wouldn't you agree?

So, if asking you to act as Brethren, and to speak with civility and dignity and honorable language is offensive, then so be it. Maybe I should go somewhere else if this is the highest level of civilized communications that you people can speak here. I must be mistaken, I thought I was amongst men and Masons, not amongst scoundrels and backstabbers.

Excuse me for making this mistake, it won't happen again. I find that most here, with the exception of a few, find it very easy to 'speak evil' of a brother's good name without ever having to come to know him, or because he is in oppsotion to their rantings about the Grand Lodge system, and I find that odd for a group that claims to be my Fraternal friends and brethren.

Speak as you wish, but just know that it shows your level of intelligence, or should I say, your lack thereof as well depending upon the words chosen by you.

Sincerely and Fraternally,

Bro. Eric J. Martin

witnessofjesus

So Jeff, are you claiming to not be a mainstream Mason yourself? Are you confessing to being clandestine instead? You either one or the other, which is it? Inquiring minds would like to know.

D. W. Brown

witnessofjesus I would like to commend you on another post I saw, where you were able to look past our squabble and see the positive things Halcyon had done and acknowledged that they may be on to something, reguarding the tax reforms.

I apologize if I snapped at you in some of my post but I just don't appreciate having someone elses morals pushed on me in my own house as I doubt you would appreciate it either.

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shadrack420

It's funny how the moral guard can use the words renagade and rebels in a mean spirited way, but thats ok.

What would Jesus do?