witnessofjesus

Whether or not the Grand Lodge would have taken the building and gutted it is unknown to most of us who have come upon this sad news via the internet; however, it doesn't take a genius to realize that theft is theft, regardless of who is practicing it. Without the entire lodge present for the vote on whether or not to surrender the charter and their dues cards, the actions taken by the renegades was unfounded and amounts to theft, grand theft at that. I am awaiting a time with patience until the Grand Lodge of Ohio makes its move to remedy the situation, reclaim the building and return it to the rightful owners thereof, the members of Halycon No. 498 who are still 'loyal' members of the Grand Lodge and have every right to the building where their lodge has met for years.

God bless the Grand Master, his Grand Lodge officers and the faithful and loyal brethren of Halycon 498, and we pray that a resolution is soon forthcoming for all involved.

tubulcain420

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St. John’s Lodge at Ohio

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Welcome to the official website of St John’s Lodge at Ohio, the first regularly constituted Lodge in the United States of America, working under the authority of the Grand Lodge of All England at York, the Ancient and Honourable Society and Fraternity of Freemasons meeting since time immemorial in the City of York.



The Grand Lodge at York is the original exponent of genuine Anglo-Saxon Freemasonry and is the governing body for Freemasonry in England, Wales, the Channel Islands and its Districts and Lodges Overseas.



St. John’s Lodge at Ohio, United States of America, was inaugurated under the Grand-Master Mason’s hand, the 21st day of November in the year 2007. This historic event was hosted by the Victoria Theatre Association, located at 138 North Main Street, Dayton, Ohio.



The aim of St. John’s Lodge is to become a focal point for individuals in the United States who are or have ever been interested in strict observance of Freemasonry. We hold ourselves to the highest standards and most ancient principals and landmarks of Freemasonry, working within due bounds of the time immemorial charter issued to us by King Athelstan during the first Grand Assembly of Masons in the year A.D. 926.



We make every attempt to hold the strictest obedience to the oldest verifiable Masonic doctrine available. Our overall goal is to practice Freemasonry in its most pure and original manifestation. We do not comment upon or challenge the practices of any other Masonic body in the world, but cater to those free thinkers in our society who want to experience Masonry the way our ancient Brethren did.



Our Lodges are not divided by race, social status, age or geography, but rather are bound together by common values, like-mindedness and interests. Therefore, if you are an individual who is in search of more light, than you need only knock and the door of Masonic brotherhood will open to you.

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That the humble insect hidden beneath a leaf
And the imperious eagle who flies to heaven's dome,
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All men are equal: not birth but virtue
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tubulcain420

God Bless America for having a saying" Innocent until proven guilty"
Funny how many freemasons forget their duty to their country, first!
I am glad this virginia brother knows all the facts to throw out "theft". For someone who really knows nothing to make statements like that is reckless and un american. It may be Masonic where you come from, but where I come from, that is what courts are for, not you, thank god.
Conviction without trial, great attitude brother, are you sure you are from America?

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Know you not yet, weak and superb man,
That the humble insect hidden beneath a leaf
And the imperious eagle who flies to heaven's dome,
Amount to nothing in the eyes of the Eternal.
All men are equal: not birth but virtue
Distinguishes them apart."

WyndellF

So instead they took what they had no right to take, did a kangaroo vote with a a minimum number of lodge brothers present, didnt follow their own published by laws and stole the building...

D. W. Brown

If you don't see how what they did was right then you are nothing more than another follower and not a leader. I have little patience for followers anymore, I'm tired of the bitching you do when you don't get your way or someone steps on your toes. You know what, get over it and either lead or get out of the way.

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Dale Brown, 32°
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witnessofjesus

Brother Brown,

I should hope that I am a follower as I just got raised to Master Mason in September, so I will admit that I'm not yet an experienced enough Mason to make such hasty decisions as they did, but I am sure than in their minds, they did what they thought at the time was right, but I do take a stand and say that I disagree with what they did, plain and simple. I disagree with all the fuse and fighting over the Grand Lodge structures, I think they are marvelous and wonderful institutions, and should be cherished and enjoyed by all.

Also you speak of having, " little patience for followers anymore, I'm tired of the bitching you do when you don't get your way or someone steps on your toes. You know what, get over it and either lead or get out of the way", yet you don't consider that those of us who remain loyal to our Grand Lodges aren't the ones complaining, I've never complained about a Grand Lodge stepping on my toes, have you? You speak of 'getting over it', and yet we have nothing to 'get over with' to begin with, we're the ones with the problems or disagreements with the Grand Lodge, it is those who became renegades and rebels who are the ones it appears that you're speaking too, not those of us who are loyal to our blue lodges and our respective Grand Lodges.

So, I am being a leader by taking a stand, and if I were in the position of the ex-master of Halycon 498, I must confess that I would not have done what he did, as I would have allowed the transfer of lodge assets to a private charity to begin with, especially if I knew this was not in keeping with the Grand Lodge of Ohio's 'laws, resolutions and edicts' of which I made an oath by covenant to 'stand too and abide by' and to 'also uphold' these as a Master Mason in Ohio. By not abiding by his obligation, these brethren have made themselves non-Masons because the answer to the question of what makes someone a Master Mason is key to establishing the fact that since they broke the very obligation to the Grand Lodge that they took to become Master Masons they have now disowned themselves as far as Masonry is concerned and are no longer Masons at all, because they did not remain faithful to their obligations, which part of it is obeying the laws, resolutions and edicts of the Grand Lodge under which one's blue lodge is chartered.

For me, those who went along with the rebellious plan and assisted in hijacking that Lodge, or any other lodge for that matter, are the ones who are NOT leaders becuase they didn't "CHOOSE THE RIGHT" and do what they should have done as Master Masons, and that is to sustain their Grand Lodge and its laws, resolutions and edicts.

D. W. Brown

witnessofjesus you wear the badge of a follower with honor, I hope that works for you as it wouldn't for me. It's sad you've been lied to all your life and that you believe those lies now to be truth. Yes, I'm sorry to say, I pitty you.

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Dale Brown, 32°
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Must Reads for Every Mason:

A Peculiar System of Morality | Laudable Pursuit | The Ancient Landmarks
The Truth About the Antients and the Moderns | It's About Time
__________________

Must Visit Links for Masons:

Grand Orient de France | Grand Orient of the United States of America
The Burning Taper | Halcyon Lodge | The Philalethes Society

witnessofjesus

Brother Brown,

How do we get our picture to show on our profile as yours does? Or is that just something for those who are admin or reps of the site?

Again, why do you 'pitty' me? I do not need your pitty, nor your praise. I stand a just and upright Mason, one who is content with the Grand Lodge under which I reside, which is the Grand Lodge of Virginia and I have no reason to complain or grip about anything that I know of.

What badge of a follower do you speak of? I'm certainly not following you or those who are the ones who are complaining about how they're being mistreated by the GLs and thus up and leaving and creating a rift in the system that is hundreds of years old. I suppose I am not a rebel, at least not Masonically speaking.

I know that I am not a follower of anarchy, but of liberty and virtue and true democracy.

So, without knowing who I am, or what I stand for, I assure you that you have mistakenly misjudged who I am and what I am capable of, my friend. I am both a follower and a leader in my own right, as all of us are.

WyndellF

Ive obeying the rules, regulations, bylaws and edicts that I obligated myself to do while kneeling where Hiram knelt makes me a follower so mote it be. If being a active in my lodge, a lodge that has done 12 degrees this month alone makes me a follower, so mote it be. If being a member of a lodge that has a full lodge room at most every stated meeting and at most degrees makes me a follower, so mote it be. If being a part of trying to make a difference and doing what I can to make my lodge, my community and myself better makes me a follower, so mote it be.

witnessofjesus

Amen, Brother, Amen! So mote it be! May all REAL Freemasons thrive and be alive in 2008, because we're truly great!