Halcyon Notifies It's Members - Page 6

tubulcain · 12-08-2007, 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by George the 3rd

The original statement I commented on was:

The implication of my commenting thus was that the Grand Lodge has treated the Brothers in Good Standing with professionalism and respect. According to reports I have read on other forums, the Grand Lodge of Ohio not only notified them that Halcyon Lodge #498 has not surrendered its charter in the eyes of The Grand Lodge but arrangements have been made for those Brothers to meet in an alternate location until those assets that rightfully belong to Halcyon Lodge #498 are returned to their control.

Do you deny that what I have just posted is the truth?

George

P.S. My name is not "georgey boy"

Maybe now, but when their cronies were dismantling the temple, they did not care what happened to 498 members, their assets and the Temple. 498 had to retain a lawyer years ago just to force GL to recignise 498's claim in the building. You see, 498 had no GL cronies in its mix, but the other squatters were filles with them and that was why 498 butted haeds with GL in the first place.
So, why GL showed interest in a successful, thriving temple, but stayed out of the place while it was being dismantled is a question to GL rep could answer me!

ok georgey boy

antoninus9 · 12-08-2007, 07:50 PM

Bro. Eric,

The " Ancient Landmarks" are unknown. That's why I made you go back to Anderson's Constitutions of 1723. Bro. Anderson states in his Constitutions that they may be amended so long as the changes do not change the " Ancient Landmarks". Unfortunately, Bro. Anderson never bothered to tell us what these " Landmarks were. Even when he issues a second edition of the Constitutions in 1738 they were still mysteriously absent.

The issue of Ancient Landmarks has been a matter of Masonic controversy for almost 300 years.

Go to this link and you will find a paper I wrote that discusses the issue in some detail. http://www.halcyontemple.org/education_materials.htm

Travel well my brother. :-)

Jeff

uzi · 12-30-2007, 06:58 PM

My God all these folks who have a boner with "CLANDESTINE MASONS " makes be ROF and LOL... Life's way too short --deal with your own lives before they end. So Chill out! CLANDESTINE MASONS are here...

Uzi

D. W. Brown · 12-30-2007, 07:45 PM

Uzi,

I think it is disappointing to see a Fraternity like Freemasonry hijacked by a monolithic system of Grand Lodges proclaiming to be the keepers of everything Masonic. Absolute power corrupts absolutely, hmm where have I hear that before?

uzi · 12-31-2007, 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by D. W. Brown

Uzi,

I think it is disappointing to see a Fraternity like Freemasonry hijacked by a monolithic system of Grand Lodges proclaiming to be the keepers of everything Masonic. Absolute power corrupts absolutely, hmm where have I hear that before?

Bro. Brown,

Agreed!

I have no problem with those who of their own free will and accord are part of monolithic freemasonry --hell I once was part it but now I am taking another path. I wish those in that system well and they are still Brothers to me.

It's been said that a picture is worth a thousand words and this might describe monolithic freemasonry today:

(Note: the craft are clueless as to what the monolith is

All the best,

Bro. Uzi

Joe West · 12-31-2007, 08:58 AM

I am not sure it is okay for me to post here or if it is more etiquette for me to stay out of it, but I thought you should know as a man who knows little who is just now learning, reading this exchange does not do well for either side of this debate and the sarcastic tone of some, not naming names it is obvious, do not present your side well.

roughashlar · 01-01-2008, 12:24 AM

I think you do a great disservice to your ideas by lumping all mainstream GLs together. I am a member of a GL which, like all, has been losing members for quite some time. And that is just fine with me! I also do not think Masonry should be all things to all people. When things get to a critical point, GLs will realize that in order to survive, we must BE Masons, not just play as Masons once a month.

What can a man get in Lodge that he can get nowhere else? Masonry. What GLs figure that out, Masonry will be just fine. But until then...

D. W. Brown · 01-01-2008, 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by roughashlar

I think you do a great disservice to your ideas by lumping all mainstream GLs together.

You are correct, not all Grand Lodges deserve being lumped together.