Rather Interesting.......... - Page 2

Stealth · 05-21-2008, 03:42 PM

Scottish Rite Credit Card
Scottish Rite Insurance
Scottish Rite Supplemental Medicare
All money making ventures that have nothing to do with Free-Masonry.

Seems they should be called the "Corporate-Rite".

Stealth · 05-21-2008, 03:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bogus83

Stealth- are you a Mason? I'm just curious.

Yes and was a member of the SR

Bogus83 · 05-22-2008, 12:52 PM

Was a member? Please stop me if I'm getting too personal, but does it have anything to do with the link in this thread? Or was there another reason?
(edit) Sorry, hadn't read the post previous to the one I responded to.

Stealth · 05-22-2008, 03:05 PM

No I found all that out before I saw the link.

nephast · 05-24-2008, 09:30 AM

Why does the author only state the SJ and not AASR as a whole for the entire article? Also, why does there seem to be a problem with the Rite in whole as opposed to the beginnings of Masonry? To question the 2nd part but not starting at the begininng is backwards. I do not drive my auto looking in the rearview mirror.
Just my ramblings...ty for the time

Stealth · 05-24-2008, 10:08 AM

The SJ was first the NJ was chartered by the SJ

nephast · 05-24-2008, 10:28 AM

Yes that is the point. So why not just mention it as a whole instead of trying to link it to 1 part of the Rite?
There is a single tie to them but promoting it against the SJ itself, shows to me that the author has not fully decided how to argue his point. The fact that the arguement lacks the authoring of books by Alberts' Mackey and Pike directly relating the Scot Rite as being written by DeMolay while he was imprisoned is leaving the arguement short of where it came from. So the only thing I draw as an arguement could be the fact that the degrees were not signed into action..
So what, neither was masonry until 1700's. Then again maybe it was fires/floods other natural occurences wiping out the archives. Did all of the human species have the knowledge to read then? How many versions of the bible have there been do to lack of knowledge?

I am not arguing for nor against the AASR just stating a case for the author to cover all the bases when you make bold statements?
If I had a time machine I could cruise back and let you know exactly how things came to be, but my scientific knowledge does not allow that.

In the end of this for me, maybe there is a reason that the fathers of masonry ended at 2 degrees.

Stealth · 05-24-2008, 01:24 PM

I beleive the author would be dead now, the book was written in 1868. Mackey and Pike were bias writers both being part of the SJ leadership.
Pike re-wrote the degrees to take the finger prints of the former owner's of the degrees off what is now the SR work.

nephast · 05-24-2008, 04:06 PM

In author I was referring to the owner of the blog (Avenger) as there are more than one source. using only 1 source for basing an argument on is simply not strengthening the point.

Mackey was big in the american york rite also which draws from SR so is it also bunk? What about masonry from day one. According to the Avenger and you supporting, then masonry is false and yet you still uphold to it? I thought a betterment of person was the overall goal in masonry and the appendant bodies. According to you there has to be validity? The USA wasn't even founded on validity. It was stolen, so now are we to move?

Reading your other posts on this site I see it is only going to keep going in circles as everything in life has since the creation of time.
That's why we have freewill to accept or deny things. After 220 years of "forgery" I see many who could careless how it got to where it is today, and millions in the realm of FM worldwide.

Stealth · 05-24-2008, 04:34 PM

York Rite in the USA is not York Rite in the UK. Its called AMERICAN YORK RITE Mr. Morris.. OH! You knew that already just as you know the SJ has not vaild patent. Forgive me I'm not playing your little game seen it before.