Mainstream Cult Thinkers

Stealth · 06-27-2008, 12:36 PM

It seems many MSM "repeated" their obligations with closed ears and minds and took allegiance to preserve, protect and defend their Grand Lodge and Grand Officers at all costs, reguardless, if they are right or wrong. That is the main objective of these (what I call) cult thinking Masons.

Let me explain the term "Cult Thinking Mason", a Cult Thinking Mason is one who thinks like any person who is a member of a cult. Cults exist because of the frame of mind of the people who organise together. A cult is merely a group of people with a similar frame of mind, and similar beliefs, acting under false apprehensions. A cult leader(Grand Master) seeks to isolate his followers from outsiders. In the name of Freemasonry, he seeks to ensure that his followers will only hear the cult leader’s(Grand Lodge) propaganda.

The cult leader (Grand Master) tries to control the flow of information to his followers and between his followers. If the cult leader (Grand Officers) have their way, their followers will only hear their slant on Masonry, because they have set themselves up as THE teachers…actually the Guru. Literature and books are closely controlled. And in the age of email and the world wide web, the cult leader will ensure as much as he can that his followers will be ingrown and inward looking by the control of authorized mailing lists and approved web sites. These Cult Thinking Masons refuse to question their leaders because they will be ostracized from all their other Cult Thinking Mason friends and loose their "title" and their egos will be deflated if they took a stand. So its easier to be part of the rank and file and "member in good standing" than to do the right thing, be a Mason.
This is my understanding of what I have personally learned from being in this MSM cult atmosphere and mind-set.

George the 3rd · 06-27-2008, 01:34 PM

The problem arises when those in positions of power and authority and those who follow them think that the power and authority are literal rather than symbolic.

Those who Gknow differently have no problem with the temporal arrangement. They function above and beyond it.

chgregory · 06-28-2008, 09:20 AM

My Brother,

Does support of the Grand Lodge require unthinking loyality, or as I beleive I was taught, does it require thoughful obedience and righteous council given to your brothers (without regard to position). In each lodge all master masons have a right as well as a duty to be heard. I am a fairly new member, but I still beleive that we have the means to steer our own ship.

Stealth · 06-28-2008, 09:31 AM

Lol.............

Mystic knight · 08-16-2008, 02:36 PM

Bro. Gregory: You may be a fairly new member here, but you have been a Mason for quite some time right?

Stealth: I believe it is wrong for GL to dictate to its members what sites are "approved" or not, who they can converse with or visit etc. It is much more wrong to punish those for reading at an "illegal" site or visiting "unrecognized" brethren. For example, I am against the French style brand of Masonry, yet I believe that if those of the ancient persuasion wish to visit such a lodge they should not be castigated. Anything on the internet should be fair game to visit or read concerning Masonry. A real Mason thinks for himself and exposes himself to all the information about Masonry he can get. He then makes his own determination about what is right. A real Mason would have the courage to stand alone if he believed in what he was doing. I can't respect a Mason that would "go with the majority" for his own gain knowing it was wrong.

Are you referring to your GL or GLs in general?

chgregory · 08-16-2008, 04:40 PM

Brother Mystic,

The way I figure it is anyone without a 25 year pin is a fairly new member.

I was really referring to the board, and I did not want to indicate to anyone that I feel I have seen it all. My scope is limited to CA and VA and a few visitations outside those jurisdictions.

At least from my point of view, I always hate to sound like some kind of authority because there are brothers out there with far more knowledge than I, and my opinion is always just sort of my opinion.

I had no intention of being misleading or in any way rude, just sort of said what was flowing through my mind at the time.

It is still my opinion that a mason can support his grand lodge without being in support of every word uttered by them collectively or as individuals. We as men and masons can't abdicate our actions nor can we deny our support of bad actions, even if those actions were taken with the best of intentions because it is just not masonic.

However, forgiving a brother for stepping off the path, and making a mistake (even if it was not really an honest mistake) is very masonic.

Every man is frail at some point in his life. My child was ill, and I was scared I would lose her. I would have killed to save her. It was not necessary, because the doctors turned the corner and she is doing great (with no ill effect at all 8 years later), but that does not change the fact, that had it appeared necessary, I would have done anything to save her.

At that moment, I was frail. I was open to a bad and unmasonic series of choices. Fate stepped in and I will never truly know what could have happened. Am I a better man because I did not act, than a good man who in a desparate situation did act and faced the outcome? Luckier maybe, but I can't claim better.

It is not possible that I know the story behind every man or mason who has failed under such pressure, but I will never be so arrogant as to believe I am better because I did not act imprudently. Just luckier.

I feel blessed to be able to speak this openly to men and masons whom I have come to consider friends. I don't intend to judge anyone because I don't wish to be judged. I don't intend to wrong anyone, because I don't wish to be wronged. If we can all live within those fences we can all live as friends and as brothers.

Thanks for listening to my way-to-wordy response, I did not realize that his post had touched me so much.

S&F,

Psi Brr · 08-18-2008, 07:36 AM

Cliff, you give me hope.

chgregory · 08-18-2008, 08:58 AM

Bob,

I am more than happy to offer that anytime. One of the truly masonic tenets is to "wisper good council into a brother's ear" and my intent is to always live up to it, if I miss, it is not from failure to care, just from being human.

I have found men on this board who inspire my greatest respect. You are certainly among them.

S&F,

Psi Brr · 08-18-2008, 09:40 AM

Thank you Cliff. Believe me when I say I hold you in the highest esteem. You truly are a gentleman among gentlemen.

I appreciate your fellowship immensely.

Warmest regards,