Highly disappointed with my Lodge - Page 3

Jayman · 05-24-2008, 07:49 AM

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nevermind

nephast · 05-24-2008, 08:50 AM

not to split hairs but more to get off that part of this topic....

what if he isn't of the trinitarian faith, then JC or any form of that name isn't his Lord, G-d......] just a bad misuse offending others that should only be spoken in private, or something along those lines

I am not looking for a rebuttle please, I am only trying to promote brotherly friendship so we can get back to the main topic.

Emeth1 · 05-24-2008, 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by grandsecretary

"Thou shalt not take the name of the LORD thy God in vain; for the LORD will not hold him guiltless that taketh his name in vain." - King James Version (KJV)

"You shall not take the name of the LORD your God in vain; for the LORD will not hold him guiltless that takes his name in vain." - New King James / Revised Standard / New American Standard

"Thou shall not take the name of the LORD thy God in vain; for the LORD will not hold him guiltless that takes his name in vain." - English text from Hebrew TORAH (published 1977)

"You shall not misuse the name of the LORD your God, for the LORD will not hold anyone guiltless who misuses his name." - New International Version (NIV)

"You shall not make wrong use of the name of the LORD you God; the LORD will not leave unpunished the man who misuses his name." - The New English Bible

"You shall not use the name of Jehovah your God irreverently, nor use it to swear to a falsehood. You will not escape punishment if you do." - The Living Bible

"Do not use the name of the LORD your God profanely; for the LORD will not regard him innocent who uses His name profanely." - Revised Berkeley

"Do not use my name for evil purposes, for I, the Lord your God, will punish anyone who misuses my name." - Good News Bible

"You shall not use or repeat the name of the LORD your God in vain [that is, lightly or frivolously, in false affirmations or profanely]; for the LORD will not hold him guiltless who takes His name in vain." - Amplified Bible

"You shall not utter the name of Yahweh your God to misuse it, Yahweh will not leave unpunished the man who utters his name to misuse it." - The Jerusalem Bible

who said his god was your god? Your making a big assumption there brother.

grandsecretary · 05-24-2008, 05:16 PM

I give up.

Tinker · 05-26-2008, 07:32 PM

There is a bit in your obligation about helping other masons with their little missteps. That's part of Masonry.

It would seem that there is something of an inversion of basic decency if blasphemy is defended.

You took your obligation on a bible. I may remind you. That book of law, tends to discourage blasphemy.

*shrugs* Masonry doesn't need new people so much that the standards need to be so relaxed that they are flaccid.

Tinker · 05-26-2008, 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Emeth1

who said his god was your god? Your making a big assumption there brother.

There's more than one?!

But, be that as it may, that's even more reason to be respectful of people's religious beliefs. One should never take the name of anyone's deity in vain. Particularly on a Masonic forum.

Jayman · 05-26-2008, 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Tinker

You took your obligation on a bible. I may remind you. That book of law, tends to discourage blasphemy.

I did? You were there? You saw which VSL I placed my hands on?

I may have been HW, but I brought my own VSL and I certainly know what it was.

Jayman · 05-26-2008, 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Tinker

There is a bit in your obligation about helping other masons with their little missteps. That's part of Masonry.

Hey, thanks for letting me know. After all, I am an EA being taught all the wrong things by a WM.

I guess I do know it all and do know more than my WM so that I can correct him.

Jayman · 05-26-2008, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Tinker

There's more than one?!

But, be that as it may, that's even more reason to be respectful of people's religious beliefs. One should never take the name of anyone's deity in vain. Particularly on a Masonic forum.

I'll let you know when the Grand Secretary starts respecting my religious beliefs, which so far he hasn't. Apparently, neither do you.

Part of respecting religious belief is to first and foremost acknowledge that yours is not the only religion out there.

So before you call this kettle black, look in the mirror first Brother. I'm new at this, you are not. What's your excuse for not following Masonic teachings?

Emeth1 · 05-27-2008, 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Tinker

There's more than one?!

Hinduism has multiple dieties, so does buddism. Catholicism, it could be argued, does also with the worship of siants etc.

My point in all this was that there are methods to teaching young brothers the path. It is not to stand proud, swell out your chest, and spew forth pompous arrogancy, but rather a private message informing the brother that he could have offended with his post would have certainly been more appropriate.