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| Originally Posted by grandsecretary First of all Dean, as a Freemason, please stop using filthy, and disgusting language, especially on a public forum.
We are informed, and exceptionally experienced in Masonic matters here, particularly on respect of Masonic jurisprudence.
The fact of the matter is that the Grand Master of The Grand Lodge of Kentucky has mis-handled this situation and your suggestion that we discuss this matter with him is quite ludicrous. That is your job young man. he is your Grand Master, not ours.
Nobody is "bashing" anybody. We are just very concerned for YOUR brother, in YOUR jurisdiction, Brother Charles Martin.
WHAT ARE YOU DOING TO ASSIST AND DEFEND HIM? So far, nothing whatsoever.
That is all that concerns us. He is a very nice man. A respectable man. A caring and concerned individual. A man on active service in Iraq, putting his life on the line FOR YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You need to defend yourself and your Grand Lodge intelligently Brother rather than attacking people who are doing your job for you.
Now, please Brother, use the brain that God gave you and deal with this serious issue, and first and foremost think about the welfare of your, and our dear brother, Charles Martin. |
What have I done? I have called the GM and had a personal one on one discussion about this issue, voiced my concerns, and LISTENED TO THE GM's.... So do not go there, before opening my mouth to bash a BROTHER in the GL of KY I did my homework... it is called MASONIC OBLIGATIONS, apparently you know nothing of these because if you remembered your charge it was to protect the good name of a fellow brother, and in matters of GL charges that means there are MULTIPLE Brothers involved.... just because one curries your favor do not start with the implied justification you have a right to bash the others.... because those of us who use our brain for something besides self justification of our own agenda will call you on it...
That means even if you only know half the story and think you are right and want to be on your high horse you STILL do that is it an OBLIGATION not a suggested course of action... in other words, get the facts or shut up!
I have to think of the welfare of Charles, AND Masonry in KY, AND our GM because he is a BROTHER first... I could care less for his rank, he is a good, honest, man, and VERY open about how he makes decisions and what he has to deal with, and let me assure you, this GL and GM bashing you so called Masons are engaging in will do more damage to his situation than anything possible....
And if this is not important enough to get the facts then keep your opinions to your self, do not comment on the matter if you are unwilling to take the time to research the subject... your comment makes it obvious, you would rather bash a Brother than pick up the phone and get an education on the matter.... all the while telling me about your "Masonic Experience"... well, I care less, if someone is not willing to live up to those simple obligations, no matter how good bashing a Brother makes them feel, they are a Mason in name only....
And for the record, I know of this matter EXTENSIVELY, I am 100% convinced it is being used by the race baiters and bigots to push there chest out and get attention as they bash the "other guy who I never spoke to personally"... it is the same crap our politicians pull, create an enemy and then preach against him so people will contribute to the preachers fund or vote for the politican or support the race baiter, regardless of his color...
... this is NOT a race issue, and if you did your research before opening your mouth you would know that....
but somehow I get the feeling most here prefer to bash Brothers than pick up a phone and get an education..... if that is your vast Masonic Experience you need to come to KY where Masonry is not just talked about, it is LIVED....
From what I have read, I am probably more aware of the details of this situation than anyone here except for the parties directly engaged... so stop playing the race card, it is doing far more damage than good, and it exposes your failure to follow your basic obligations....